February 09, 2014

Civil (and Uncivil) War Thread [Y-not]
— Open Blogger

This thread is for you to get your hate on... or just discuss politics.

Some thread-fodder below:
Apparently, we still hate each other:

Civil War Still Divides Americans, at least according to a 2011 CNN Poll:

In the CNN/Opinion Research Corporation Poll released Tuesday, roughly one in four Americans said they sympathize more with the Confederacy than the Union, a figure that rises to nearly four in ten among white Southerners.

When asked the reason behind the Civil War, whether it was fought over slavery or states' rights, 52 percent of all Americans said the leaders of the Confederacy seceded to keep slavery legal in their state, but a sizeable 42 percent minority said slavery was not the main reason why those states seceded.


Meanwhile, onto more, shall we say "modern" divisions, here's something to chew on from Richard Epstein, My Rand Paul Problem:

Libertarians fall into two distinct groups: strict libertarians like Rand Paul and classical liberals such as myself. “Classical liberal” is not a term that rolls off of the tongue. Consequently, “libertarian” is the choice term in popular discourse when discussing policies that favor limited government. Libertarians of all stripes oppose President Obama’s endless attacks on market institutions and the rich. The umbrella term comfortably embraces both strands of libertarian theory vis-à-vis a common intellectual foe.

The renewed attention to Paul exposes the critical tension between hard-line libertarians and classical liberals. The latter are comfortable with a larger government than hard-core libertarians because they take into account three issues that libertarians like Paul tend to downplay: (1) coordination problems; (2) uncertainty; (3) and matters of institutional design. None of this is at all evident from Tanenhaus and Rutenberg’s unfair caricature of the “mixed inheritance” among the “libertarian faithful,” which to them includes, “antitax activists and war protestors, John Birch Society members, and a smatter of truthers who suspect the government’s hand in the 2001 terrorist attacks.”

This unfortunate list mixes libertarians of all stripes into a convention of unthinking kooks. A more accurate rendition of the various strands of libertarian thought would hearken back to such great thinkers as Hobbes, Locke, Montesquieu, Hume, Smith, and Madison. Their incisive contributions concerned the relationship between individual liberty and the social order.


Have at it, morons!

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1 MOAR SYRIA!!!! ;-)

Posted by: Y-not (@MoxieMom) at February 09, 2014 01:57 PM (zDsvJ)

2 Damn, Y-not, why couldn't you have made the travel thread about neat places that ain't necessarily historic? I've been sitting here wayching the #v(&!+ snow fall and daydreamin' about Mallorca. I wanna go back!

Posted by: MrScribbler at February 09, 2014 02:02 PM (ff7/5)

3 "Paul tend to downplay: (1) coordination problems; (2) uncertainty; (3) and matters of institutional design" 1) I am highly coordinated. (2) Uncertainty is alive and well. (3) DC threw the institutional design of the Constitution under the bus 100 years ago.

Posted by: Angel with a sword at February 09, 2014 02:03 PM (hpgw1)

4 Thread Fatigue.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 09, 2014 02:03 PM (6bMeY)

5 Civil War? Bullshit! It's the War of Northern Aggression. At least thats what the historical marker on Broad Street in Athens, Georgia, says, and thats where I got my law degree, fuckers, so suck it.

Posted by: alex. at February 09, 2014 02:06 PM (Q5MaG)

6 Posted by: Y-not (@MoxieMom) at February 09, 2014 05:57 PM (zDsvJ We should intervene more, basically everywhere, even as we cut the defense budget, screw the troops, and have a clown for CiC. Because Iraq, Afghanistan, Egypt, and Libya worked out so well for us!

Posted by: Juan McCain 4 Intervention at February 09, 2014 02:07 PM (o3MSL)

7 2 Damn, Y-not, why couldn't you have made the travel thread about neat places that ain't necessarily historic? -- Sorry! That first week's thread had a lot of folks chomping at the bit to talk about historical locales, so...

Posted by: Y-not (@MoxieMom) at February 09, 2014 02:08 PM (zDsvJ)

8 We've always been at war with each other.....

Posted by: Zombie George Orwell at February 09, 2014 02:08 PM (Aif/5)

9 3 "Paul tend to downplay: (1) coordination problems; (2) uncertainty; (3) and matters of institutional design"
Well there you go then. Big government all around please.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 09, 2014 02:09 PM (juDHN)

10 I predict this will not turn out well.

Posted by: Ronster at February 09, 2014 02:10 PM (puNd6)

11 Release the Vic!

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 09, 2014 02:11 PM (o3MSL)

12 `The War of Northern Megalomania.` |runs off| Later, all. God bless. :-)

Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at February 09, 2014 02:12 PM (thBHI)

13 There are no problems big (or small) enough that a big enough government will not claim to be able to fix, if only the right people are put in charge and have sufficient authority to "make" things happen!

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 09, 2014 02:13 PM (o3MSL)

14 >>10 I predict this will not turn out well. I think we may need some of those "blood stain removal from carpet" remedies. LOL

Posted by: Y-not (@MoxieMom) at February 09, 2014 02:16 PM (zDsvJ)

15 "Paul tend to downplay: (1) coordination problems; (2) uncertainty; (3) and matters of institutional design"  


with current technology couldn't 80% of federal departments be replaced by  web designers and CPAs/auditors?

Posted by: phreshone at February 09, 2014 02:17 PM (Q6pxP)

16 * leaves Travel Thread..., sips more Rebel Yell..., continues to contemplate *

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 09, 2014 02:18 PM (aDwsi)

17 Frankly if you look at school performance, school districts hit diseconomies of scale at about 250,000 residents...  coordination above the city level can be done by webdesigners with lots of links and stored files.

Posted by: phreshone at February 09, 2014 02:19 PM (Q6pxP)

18

Secession was about slavery. The War Between the States was about states' rights vs. federal power.

I've never understood the North's position on the war: We hate the Southern states so much that we will not let them go.

By the way, I think it's inaccurate to call it a civil war. The South was fighting for its independence, not to overthrow the government of the United States.

 

 

Posted by: oldtimer at February 09, 2014 02:19 PM (PVpCn)

19 TMC ran 'Doctor Zhivago' today. Should be mandatory viewing in all schools.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 09, 2014 02:19 PM (aDwsi)

20 Libertarians fall into two classes.

Actual libertarians and Democrats masquerading as libertarians.

Posted by: Kreplach at February 09, 2014 02:21 PM (Xkr8I)

21 The South was fighting for its independence, not to overthrow the government of the United States. Posted by: oldtimer --------------------- I have often considered the idea that the war conducted by the North, was the first real act of Imperialism by the U.S.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 09, 2014 02:21 PM (aDwsi)

22 The Civil War was part of the larger emergent trend away from agriculture-based societies in general - and was not the only war to have ended that, only the one which ended it here. Slavery, then, is only a part inasmuch that human energy capital was the means of powering agriculture in the South at the time.

Posted by: Bigby's Germy Hands at February 09, 2014 02:22 PM (KgN8K)

23 The Walking Dead is back tonight. How come no one has mentioned this? I hope it starts with a bang. I suspect it is just going to be Rick and the kid wondering around separated from the group. Carol will probably save their asses.

Posted by: Judge Pug at February 09, 2014 02:23 PM (NRYdU)

24 It was all downhill from there. The Federal Reserve and Income Tax in 1913. Popular Election of Senators. The British Bankers conquered America after the war.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 09, 2014 02:23 PM (6bMeY)

25 Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 09, 2014 06:21 PM (aDwsi) In the olden times, empires were not desirous of giving independence to any group of subjects!

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 09, 2014 02:24 PM (o3MSL)

26 19 TMC ran 'Doctor Zhivago' today. Should be mandatory viewing in all schools. Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 09, 2014 06:19 PM (aDwsi) As I have always said, amazing parallels to the last 5 years, for those who can extract logical conclusions. Follow that up the animated (British?) version of Animal Farm. Sit back and watch liberal teachers spit, sputter and try to contain their exploding heads.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Rounding Error Extraordinaire at February 09, 2014 02:24 PM (Zlhfa)

27 Hroth _ I think I may rephrase my previous statement to read: "... the only act of Imperialism."

Posted by: Mike Hammer at February 09, 2014 02:25 PM (aDwsi)

28 It's the War of Northern Aggression. At least thats what the historical marker on Broad Street in Athens, Georgia, says, and thats where I got my law degree, f*****s, so suck it.

Don't the crayons melt in the Georgia sun?

Posted by: pep at February 09, 2014 02:26 PM (6TB1Z)

29 Look, if Admiral Eisenhower deployed his longbow brigade angainst Pappy Bouyington's crossbow lancers, the battle of Baden Hill would not have been lost.

Posted by: Lib what thinks he know stuff, man! at February 09, 2014 02:26 PM (o9Rp5)

30
I think that it is a mistake for the Republicans to, as the Romney campaign urges, overturn Roe at this point and return the matter to the states. I believe that this position made sense before Roe was decided. But the decision has been the law of the land for 40 years, and has produced a stable set of expectations that would be shattered in unpredictable ways if the issue went to the states.

Richard A. Epstein




Ah, unpredictability.  The bete noire of "classical liberals" everywhere.....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 09, 2014 02:29 PM (kdS6q)

31 I consider myself a Civil War buff and love studying the period.  Years ago I was in Charleston talking to a local and made the mistake of referring to it as the Civil War.  He quickly corrected me.  It was the war of northern aggression.  He was the curator of a small museum.  Interesting conversation.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 09, 2014 02:29 PM (o9Rp5)

32 >>>>I've never understood the North's position on the war The thing the Southerners have right is it was very much a war of aggression. We Northerners forget it or dismiss it as immaterial, but there were several high-profile provocations that northerners engaged in. Those persons saw it as a fight to free the slaves. The more immediate concern, though, was the Compromise. If it were allowed to stand, the character of the future States was uncertain. The North regarded any future States as more properly belonging to them and their influences. When they took Kansas the first thing they did was build schools, to teach the kids the 'right way to think' about it all, using the new methods. Progressives are ever the same.

Posted by: Bigby's Germy Hands at February 09, 2014 02:29 PM (KgN8K)

33 NBCs coverage sucks. Bring back ABC, where they can at least have live coverage on ESPN, and leave the Costa biopic shit for the little old ladies who watch prime time

Posted by: Avi at February 09, 2014 02:30 PM (p/izY)

34 Are they going to cover the straight events next week?

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 09, 2014 02:31 PM (6bMeY)

35
"Civil War Still Divides Americans"




War of Northern Aggression.....



Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 09, 2014 02:34 PM (kdS6q)

36 #28 Crayons? Shit, we used pencils. What do you Yankees use?

Posted by: alex. at February 09, 2014 02:34 PM (Q5MaG)

37 12 `The War of Northern Megalomania.`
Posted by: Mirror-Universe Mitt Romney at February 09, 2014 06:12 PM (thBHI)
Continues to this day.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 09, 2014 02:36 PM (juDHN)

38 I think they sniff glue.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 09, 2014 02:36 PM (6bMeY)

39 NBCs coverage sucks Have you tried feeds from any other nations' sources, maybe BBC or whatever? Might be less um flamboyant

Posted by: Bigby's Germy Hands at February 09, 2014 02:36 PM (KgN8K)

40 They are blocked geographically.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 09, 2014 02:37 PM (6bMeY)

41 >>>>The War of Northern Megalomania You didn't enslave that!

Posted by: Bigby's Germy Hands at February 09, 2014 02:38 PM (KgN8K)

42 40 I didn't know that. I assume you mean online?

Posted by: Bigby's Germy Hands at February 09, 2014 02:39 PM (KgN8K)

43 With a different president, maybe the secession would have succeeded. I believe Lincoln's vision was that the USA could only remain strong and achieve greatness if it remained united.

Posted by: real joe at February 09, 2014 02:40 PM (xXhgd)

44 CBC BBC. If you are in the U.S. they are blocked. Sometimes BBC's blocker fails.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 09, 2014 02:40 PM (6bMeY)

45 [BBC and CBC] offer extensive free live coverage of the events to online viewers in their respective markets. The catch is that your access will be blocked if you try to watch from the United States. ItÂ’s possible to get around this restriction using a virtual private network, or VPN, which can be configured to replace your normal IP address with one based in a different country. http://is.gd/Mm5WW2

Posted by: Bigby's Germy Hands at February 09, 2014 02:48 PM (KgN8K)

46 Mediate is hit whoring Olympic Streams.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 09, 2014 02:48 PM (6bMeY)

47 As I see it, the North couldn't tolerate having its most important transportation route, the Mississippi River, under control of a foreign power.   

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at February 09, 2014 02:49 PM (43lZz)

48 47 As I see it, the North couldn't tolerate having its most important transportation route, the Mississippi River, under control of a foreign power. Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at February 09, 2014 06:49 PM (43lZz) Hmm....never heard that one.

Posted by: BignJames at February 09, 2014 02:51 PM (HtUkt)

49 I watched the London games but I don't remember the streaming site I used.

Posted by: Judge Pug at February 09, 2014 02:54 PM (NRYdU)

50 Anybody watch True Detective? Is it any good?

Posted by: Judge Pug at February 09, 2014 02:55 PM (NRYdU)

51 6 Posted by: Y-not (@MoxieMom) at February 09, 2014 05:57 PM (zDsvJ We should intervene more, basically everywhere, even as we cut the defense budget, screw the troops, and have a clown for CiC. Because Iraq, Afghanistan, Egypt, and Libya worked out so well for us! Posted by: Juan McCain 4 Intervention at February 09, 2014 06:07 PM (o3MSL) Precisely what I was thinking. You've read my mind.

Posted by: EdMorrissey'sweatyballsack at February 09, 2014 02:56 PM (m4AUe)

52 So.... he's confirming that Rand Paul believes in small government? I don't see the problem here.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 09, 2014 02:56 PM (DmNpO)

53 Give me Liberty,
Or give me free shit!

Posted by: Obamabot who wants free shit at February 09, 2014 02:56 PM (uUXp6)

54 Mike Hammer, I had television on yesterday on TCM while I was working from here. I missed most of two good movies, Mister Roberts & Auntie Mame. I had seen Mister Roberts as a kid & loved it, but it was half listening & not watching. I never saw Auntie Mame, heard most of it & only started to watch at very end. TCM has iPad app, but neither one of them are on demand on it. Baby Doll is going to be on again. I know you didn't like it, I'm warning you it will be on in next few days. I looked at on screen TV Guide, it will be on Wednesday @ 1:45 am. Judgement at Nuremberg is going to be on MGM channel. Someone mentioned that this week. It will be on tomorrow at 6:30 am. I set DVR to record it.

Posted by: Carol at February 09, 2014 02:59 PM (z4WKX)

55 33 NBCs coverage sucks. Bring back ABC, where they can at least have live coverage on ESPN, and leave the Costa biopic shit for the little old ladies who watch prime time Posted by: Avi at February 09, 2014 06:30 PM (p/izY) Has Bob colored his rug or is it a new one?

Posted by: EdMorrissey'sweatyballsack at February 09, 2014 03:00 PM (HT2Nt)

56 The consensus down here in Texas is that 'The South is gonna do it again! Secede from the Onion (intentional mis-spelling)" The current train of thought is... "Fill your hand you Northern big 'gooberment" SOB's and lets have at it. It's been way too long." But they may just be whistling Dixie. That remains to be seen. As Thomas Jefferson said "God Forbid the country be 50 years without a REVOLUTION." Now Ace, don't be baiting me with fake TJ quotes like you did with some A hole back in the day. As funny as it was, I really wouldn't appreciate it.

Posted by: Preznit 404 at February 09, 2014 03:01 PM (cCxiu)

57 The consensus down here in Texas is that 'The South is gonna do it again! Secede from the Onion (intentional mis-spelling)" The current train of thought is... "Fill your hand you Northern big 'gooberment" SOB's and lets have at it. It's been way too long." But they may just be whistling Dixie. That remains to be seen. As Thomas Jefferson said "God Forbid the country be 50 years without a REVOLUTION." Now Ace, don't be baiting me with fake TJ quotes like you did with some A hole back in the day. As funny as it was, I really wouldn't appreciate it.

Posted by: Preznit 404 at February 09, 2014 03:01 PM (cCxiu)

58 The consensus down here in Texas is that 'The South is gonna do it again! Secede from the Onion (intentional mis-spelling)" The current train of thought is... "Fill your hand you Northern big 'gooberment" SOB's and lets have at it. It's been way too long." But they may just be whistling Dixie. That remains to be seen. As Thomas Jefferson said "God Forbid the country be 50 years without a REVOLUTION." Now Ace, don't be baiting me with fake TJ quotes like you did with some A hole back in the day. As funny as it was, I really wouldn't appreciate it.

Posted by: Preznit 404 at February 09, 2014 03:01 PM (cCxiu)

59 Bob Costas's eye looks worse, if that's possible.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 09, 2014 03:02 PM (P6QsQ)

60 Bob Costas's eye looks worse, if that's possible.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 09, 2014 03:02 PM (P6QsQ)

61 Bob Costas's eye looks worse, if that's possible.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 09, 2014 03:02 PM (P6QsQ)

62 They need alternative Olympic coverage for people who aren't gay child molesters.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 09, 2014 03:02 PM (6bMeY)

63 They need alternative Olympic coverage for people who aren't gay child molesters.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 09, 2014 03:02 PM (6bMeY)

64 They need alternative Olympic coverage for people who aren't gay child molesters.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 09, 2014 03:02 PM (6bMeY)

65 Too bad Vic spent his day with too much brown beverage to lecture us in detail about The War of Southern Insolence. I love Vic's his-story lessons!

Posted by: Ed Anger at February 09, 2014 03:02 PM (tOkJB)

66 Too bad Vic spent his day with too much brown beverage to lecture us in detail about The War of Southern Insolence. I love Vic's his-story lessons!

Posted by: Ed Anger at February 09, 2014 03:02 PM (tOkJB)

67 Too bad Vic spent his day with too much brown beverage to lecture us in detail about The War of Southern Insolence. I love Vic's his-story lessons!

Posted by: Ed Anger at February 09, 2014 03:02 PM (tOkJB)

68 John Stossel ‏@FBNStossel 1m Clueless regulators shut down @Intrade, but parts are about to start up again. Good! #Reputation re-airs tonight at 10pm on @FoxNews.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 09, 2014 03:04 PM (DmNpO)

69 John Stossel ‏@FBNStossel 1m Clueless regulators shut down @Intrade, but parts are about to start up again. Good! #Reputation re-airs tonight at 10pm on @FoxNews.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 09, 2014 03:04 PM (DmNpO)

70 John Stossel ‏@FBNStossel 1m Clueless regulators shut down @Intrade, but parts are about to start up again. Good! #Reputation re-airs tonight at 10pm on @FoxNews.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 09, 2014 03:04 PM (DmNpO)

71 Hmmmn George Will wants more laborers to grow the workforce and economy!

How stupid is this guy? Labor participation rate lowest evah and he wants to fix it by importing a bunch third world knuckleheads whom the Lyin Rat Party will immediately enlist to take away our guns and overthrow the constitution, well whatever is left of it anyway. Will says there
s no gaurantee these risk takers will vote Repunk. Well with the Lyin Rat grasp on all Feral assistance programs that idea is preordained to be a Rat Voter registration bonanza!

Posted by: Concealedkerry or SubMitt at February 09, 2014 03:04 PM (uUXp6)

72 Bob Costas's eye looks worse, if that's possible. Russian sperm--it's like lemon juice or something!

Posted by: Bob Costas at February 09, 2014 03:04 PM (JQuNB)

73 @55 ....Ed..somethingsomethingballsack, Did Bob get his creepy eye back to working yet? Reminds me of that creepy eye guy in the "Tell tale Heart".

Posted by: Judge Roy Bean at February 09, 2014 03:05 PM (cCxiu)

74 I think they should amputate.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 09, 2014 03:05 PM (P6QsQ)

75 I have episodes of True Detective saved; have yet to watch any.

Posted by: Soothsayer at February 09, 2014 03:06 PM (U+iP0)

76 NBC seems to be fixated on men's events where they are wearing skintight body suits.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 09, 2014 03:06 PM (6bMeY)

77 64 I think they should amputate. -------- I concur. Start at the neck comrade.

Posted by: Vladimir at February 09, 2014 03:06 PM (Aif/5)

78 >>>>don't see the problem here. I didn't either. Really I just saw it as his attempt to characterize Classical Liberalism to agree with his own peculiar views. Doesn't mean he is correct.

Posted by: Bigby's Germy Hands at February 09, 2014 03:07 PM (KgN8K)

79 Boy it sure was a slow day at HQ. Gun thread up most of the day. Thank God Y-Not came to the rescue. Everyone watching the "non-ghey" Olympics with the Ghey Russian winning the figure skating? Sure, he's NOT ghey, but he will hold one till it goes soft.

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 09, 2014 03:07 PM (0FSuD)

80 57 Bob Costas's eye looks worse, if that's possible.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 09, 2014 07:02 PM (P6QsQ)

By tomorrow night he'll be eating the flesh off of Dan Patrick


Posted by: kbdabear at February 09, 2014 03:07 PM (aTXUx)

81 Civil war eh ? Methinks we may be headed for round 2 . At least the slavery issue has been settled . Which is nice .

Posted by: awkward davies at February 09, 2014 03:08 PM (WK8VM)

82 Putin should feed Bob Costas a Polonium sandwich. Then Bob will leave the little boys alone.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 09, 2014 03:08 PM (6bMeY)

83 Posted by: Preznit 404 at February 09, 2014 07:01 PM (cCxiu)

I be movin south when dat happens!

Posted by: Concealedkerry Behind enemy lines at February 09, 2014 03:08 PM (uUXp6)

84 I think they should amputate.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 09, 2014 07:05 PM (P6QsQ)

 

You are something else.   Of course,  I cannot disagree.

Posted by: Ronster at February 09, 2014 03:08 PM (puNd6)

85 Posted by: Concealedkerry or SubMitt at February 09, 2014 07:04 PM (uUXp6) As I watched Will this AM, I thought he is perfect for the kinder, gentler Fox News! The necessary credentials for being labeled a conservative intellectual have obviously been decreased recently.

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 09, 2014 03:11 PM (o3MSL)

86 63 @55 ....Ed..somethingsomethingballsack, Did Bob get his creepy eye back to working yet? Reminds me of that creepy eye guy in the "Tell tale Heart". Posted by: Judge Roy Bean at February 09, 2014 07:05 PM (cCxiu) No. No it hasn't. He's been winking a bit too much at the male athletes.

Posted by: EdMorrissey'sweatyballsack at February 09, 2014 03:11 PM (k4ET0)

87 Do any of these ski jumpers ever land on their heads?

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 09, 2014 03:11 PM (6bMeY)

88 My son went to The University of the South, in Sewanee, TN. All the streets are named after the confederacy states and the flags of all the Southern states hang in the Chapel. It is an Episcopal University. The mace that the bishop carries? The battle flag is on it.

Posted by: Nip Sip at February 09, 2014 03:11 PM (0FSuD)

89 I'm not interested in the Olympics. I put opening ceremony on demand yesterday & proceeded to read here & fast forward Costa's interview with SCOAMF. I did see that one Olympic snowflake didn't open into Olympic Ring.

Posted by: Carol at February 09, 2014 03:11 PM (z4WKX)

90 Don't tell me that gold metal snowboarder was teh geh, that kid has more balls than the entire NBA and Congress!

Posted by: Concealedkerry Behind Northern agressionenemy lines at February 09, 2014 03:12 PM (uUXp6)

91 Do any of these ski jumpers ever land on their heads? **** On of them wipe out earlier today but he got up and walked away.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 09, 2014 03:12 PM (DmNpO)

92 At least the slavery issue has been settled . Which is nice . Posted by: awkward davies at February 09, 2014 07:08 PM (WK8VM) Nice my ass. Where be our reparations?

Posted by: Rev Al at February 09, 2014 03:12 PM (0FSuD)

93 After watching the clip from Fox News Sunday: Fuck George Will.

Posted by: buzzion at February 09, 2014 03:12 PM (LI48c)

94 >>>Methinks we may be headed for round 2 . I look at it more as AmRev 2 But I don't hold much hope it'll come to pass, really. I do think something new is emergent and it'll spell the end of most of the old order of things - so Wall St, Penn Ave, and Madison St all will fall. But at the cost of Main St, too. Could be war, maybe not for reasons we're seeing now

Posted by: Bigby's Germy Hands at February 09, 2014 03:14 PM (KgN8K)

95 The University of the South, 1858. http://tinyurl.com/7k7h2l8

Posted by: Rev Al at February 09, 2014 03:14 PM (0FSuD)

96 I found Weblock app free on App Store & opened the most apps I have that have ads tailored for my area & it works on iPad & iPhone. I'm sure in a few days they will want paid version of it.

Posted by: Carol at February 09, 2014 03:15 PM (z4WKX)

97 83 After watching the clip from Fox News Sunday: Fuck George Will. Posted by: buzzion at February 09, 2014 07:12 PM (LI48c) Some years ago Will called 2nd amendment "embarrassing".

Posted by: BignJames at February 09, 2014 03:15 PM (HtUkt)

98 I want to thank this administration from releasing me from work. Never liked it much anyway.

Posted by: edmukated voter at February 09, 2014 03:16 PM (jsa6I)

99 For civil war 2.0 I think we should seize and crush San Francisco for our Pacific access . Just for fun . Sure, Portland , Seattle , or L.A. would work but it's San Francisco . Imagine the rending of hair and garments and shit .

Posted by: awkward davies at February 09, 2014 03:17 PM (WK8VM)

100 Watched the Laura Ingraham clip. I am trying to figure out if enforcement throws out grandmothers, how is that making economic dynamism worse? Are a bunch of Mexican grandmothers the growth engine of the American economy?

Posted by: blaster at February 09, 2014 03:17 PM (4+AaH)

101 Posted by: buzzion at February 09, 2014 07:12 PM (LI48c)
His argument made no sense import more lawn boys and landscapers, roofers to do what? Scrape the remnants of the Lyin Rat Cities as they move into no go zones where Obamas sons roam the streets lookin for drugs and welfare baby mommas?
Laura must have felt like Davy Crockett at the Alamo! Laura:
 "Remember the Alamo"?
Will, Juan, Chris Wallace:
"Viva la Mehiho!"

Posted by: Concealedkerry Behind Northern agression enemy lines at February 09, 2014 03:18 PM (uUXp6)

102 Israel Los Angeles ‏@IsraelLA 35s What we're reading // Iranian TV airs simulated bombing of Israel, and US aircraft carrier http://t.co/liu34YvbgG

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 09, 2014 03:18 PM (DmNpO)

103 87 83 After watching the clip from Fox News Sunday: Fuck George Will. Posted by: buzzion at February 09, 2014 07:12 PM (LI48c) Some years ago Will called 2nd amendment "embarrassing". Posted by: BignJames at February 09, 2014 07:15 PM (HtUkt) Does George still spend most of his free time chasing strange mookie?

Posted by: EdMorrissey'sweatyballsack at February 09, 2014 03:18 PM (k4ET0)

104 Gotta love Laura no back down in her.

Posted by: Bob from table9 at February 09, 2014 03:19 PM (jsa6I)

105 Ice Girl Open Thread Compliance and Elbow Withrawals pic http://tinyurl.com/m3dyrmk

Posted by: kbdabear at February 09, 2014 03:19 PM (aTXUx)

106 I can't get the Forbes Link to load.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 09, 2014 03:20 PM (6bMeY)

107 Sheeeeit Rev. Al , y'all been gettin' reparations for the last 60 yrs. I believe that's enough . It's been way more than 40 acres and a mule once you total up all the great society cash that's been spent . To no measurable effect , I might add .

Posted by: awkward davies at February 09, 2014 03:21 PM (WK8VM)

108 What we're reading // Iranian TV airs simulated bombing of Israel, and US aircraft carrier http://t.co/liu34YvbgG

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 09, 2014 07:18 PM (DmNpO)

 

I read about that. Sounds like a lot of bluster.  With our current administration  they can get by with anything they want to.

Posted by: Ronster at February 09, 2014 03:21 PM (puNd6)

109 Could be war, maybe not for reasons we're seeing now

Posted by: Bigby's Germy Hands at February 09, 2014 07:14 PM (KgN8K)

DAMN! Just when I thought I had about enough ammo, oh well ,Walmart here I come every morning! ya know what I want, More ammo,.22, .223,5.56, .380 auto, .38, .357, .40 any or all.

Posted by: Concealedkerry Behind Northern agression enemy lines at February 09, 2014 03:22 PM (uUXp6)

110
Some years ago Will called 2nd amendment "embarrassing".
Posted by: BignJames





This year Will endorsed the Libertarian spoiler in the Virginia Governor's race, because the Republican candidate was an icky SoCon.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 09, 2014 03:22 PM (kdS6q)

111 I stopped watching Fox News Sunday in 2011 when Wallace had Herman Cain on & asked question about old rock that was painted over on Rick Perry's ranch. FNC has been getting more liberal in past few years. Two minutes of Bill O Friday & he's still talking about his interview with the JEF! The JEF is interviewed at least once a week & from what I watched on here, he evaded, lied & blamed FNC! I saw that Bill called Boehner pinhead of the week. I think he called him a dem too, but I wouldn't watch clip.

Posted by: Carol at February 09, 2014 03:23 PM (z4WKX)

112 99 Could be war, maybe not for reasons we're seeing now Posted by: Bigby's Germy Hands at February 09, 2014 07:14 PM (KgN8K) DAMN! Just when I thought I had about enough ammo, oh well ,Walmart here I come every morning! ya know what I want, More ammo,.22, .223,5.56, .380 auto, .38, .357, .40 any or all. __________________________________ No you really can't have enough ammo. There are too many of them.

Posted by: Bob from table9 at February 09, 2014 03:23 PM (jsa6I)

113 89 For civil war 2.0 I think we should seize and crush San Francisco for our Pacific access . Just for fun . Sure, Portland , Seattle , or L.A. would work but it's San Francisco . Imagine the rending of hair and garments and shit . Posted by: awkward davies at February 09, 2014 07:17 PM (WK8VM) Ever hear of this guy? http://www.sandowbirk.com/paintings/the-great-war-of-the-californias/ I have another book of his of paintings of CA prisons. But they look like Italian renaissance paintings.

Posted by: Judge Pug at February 09, 2014 03:23 PM (NRYdU)

114 No you really can't have enough ammo. There are too many of them.

Posted by: Bob from table9 at February 09, 2014 07:23 PM (jsa6I)

But when the chit hits the fan and the south suckseeds I will need a Mac coal truck to haul my chit across the new border southern/northern border. Any coal trucks down there not bein used in this whoppin grand economy!

Posted by: Concealedkerry Behind Northern agression enemy lines at February 09, 2014 03:27 PM (uUXp6)

115 Apparently in the new episode of TWD, Carl's voice changes. That is all.

Posted by: Judge Pug at February 09, 2014 03:28 PM (NRYdU)

116 George Will characterized as a staunch conservative is laughable.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 09, 2014 03:29 PM (6bMeY)

117
For civil war 2.0 I think we should seize and crush San Francisco for our Pacific access . Just for fun .
Sure, Portland , Seattle , or L.A. would work but it's San Francisco .
Posted by: awkward davies




An axis of advance from the South already runs thru LA, which has more modern port facilities to boot.

Just lay siege to San Francisco and let them starve when their soy milk supply runs out.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 09, 2014 03:29 PM (kdS6q)

118 Forget? HELL!

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 09, 2014 03:31 PM (4Mv1T)

119 At least the slavery issue has been settled . I'm sure your local doctors might feel otherwise.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at February 09, 2014 03:31 PM (m9V0o)

120 Just lay siege to San Francisco and let them starve when their soy milk supply runs out. Nope. Seize central California. Where the water supplies come from...

Posted by: Brother Cavil at February 09, 2014 03:32 PM (m9V0o)

121 Now they have some woman scissoring with a Shetland pony.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 09, 2014 03:32 PM (6bMeY)

122 I read about that. Sounds like a lot of bluster. With our current administration they can get by with anything they want to. **** They are sending, are purported to be sending, warships to the waters off our eastern coast. Based upon the photos I've seen of those warships I'm guessing it will only be a matter of time before they are calling on the Navy to bale them off a sinking ship.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 09, 2014 03:32 PM (DmNpO)

123 111 Now they have some woman scissoring with a Shetland pony. Link? I'm re-thinking my Olympic boycott decision.

Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at February 09, 2014 03:33 PM (JQuNB)

124 The Civil War was caused by the fucking Quakers. They've never met a cause that they wouldn't send someone else's sons to fight for

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at February 09, 2014 03:34 PM (+/reh)

125 113 NBC over the air.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 09, 2014 03:34 PM (6bMeY)

126 how about curling with Costas rug

Posted by: Avi at February 09, 2014 03:34 PM (p/izY)

127 115 113 NBC over the air. I was just kidding. I wouldn't watch it even for the scissoring.

Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at February 09, 2014 03:35 PM (JQuNB)

128 The Farmer's Insurance Guy has a new show.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 09, 2014 03:35 PM (6bMeY)

129 I believe George Will was a dem, but might be wrong about that. I know he was against Reagan in 1980, but do not remember who he wanted. Krauthammer worked for Mondale. I'm using iPad & I had to type Kraut's name a few times before it would stay as one word.

Posted by: Carol at February 09, 2014 03:35 PM (z4WKX)

130 I haven't watched a minute of it.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 09, 2014 03:36 PM (4Mv1T)

131 I know Laurie David , it's just that Boxer , Pelosi , and Feinstein all live within a short drive of S.F. and who could resist all the sorely needed collateral damage .

Posted by: awkward davies at February 09, 2014 03:37 PM (WK8VM)

132 George Will is an ass.  That's all anyone needs to know.

Posted by: Ronster at February 09, 2014 03:37 PM (puNd6)

133 Never heard of him Judge Pug .

Posted by: awkward davies at February 09, 2014 03:38 PM (WK8VM)

134 Tobacco Road, Do you have your power & heat back?

Posted by: Carol at February 09, 2014 03:38 PM (z4WKX)

135 How does that asswipe who got fired by PBS get on TV? Many Janitors are more insightful.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 09, 2014 03:39 PM (6bMeY)

136 114 The Civil War was caused by the fucking Quakers. They've never met a cause that they wouldn't send someone else's sons to fight for Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at February 09, 2014 07:34 PM (+/reh) And they went on to provide fronts for communist and subversive organizations.

Posted by: Judge Pug at February 09, 2014 03:39 PM (NRYdU)

137 Damn Oatmeal pushers.

Posted by: buzzion at February 09, 2014 03:40 PM (LI48c)

138 The Civil War was caused by the fucking Quakers. Demon-possessed, they are.

Posted by: The Amish at February 09, 2014 03:40 PM (JQuNB)

139 That Dufus ass Presdent and his clan had better not show up in the front row of the Westminster Dog Show ,,,,,droolin. He already ruined the awful Stuper Bowl!

Posted by: Concealedkerry Behind Northern agression enemy lines at February 09, 2014 03:41 PM (uUXp6)

140 Tobacco Road,
Do you have your power & heat back? Posted by: Carol
------------------------------

It wasn't me who lost it. Power, anyway. I'm trying to remember whose house was below freezing last week.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 09, 2014 03:41 PM (4Mv1T)

141 Joan Baez is a fuckin' Quaker ....

Posted by: awkward davies at February 09, 2014 03:41 PM (WK8VM)

142 I think some of my ancestors were Quakers who went over the wall. Society of Friends?

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 09, 2014 03:42 PM (6bMeY)

143 Nixon was  a Quaker.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 09, 2014 03:42 PM (4Mv1T)

144 Quaker owns Cap'n Crunch.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 09, 2014 03:43 PM (6bMeY)

145 @ 114, Herr Morgenholz ..Quakers..don't you just hate em? I hate their tasteless oats gruel too! And them little funny hats. Everyone knows if you can't have bacon, eggs and home fries for breakfast that high sugar Capt, Crunch is the way to start a day!

Posted by: Judge Roy Bean at February 09, 2014 03:44 PM (cCxiu)

146 http://tinyurl.com/m6o2nxv

WSJ -
Laura Ingraham KO's George Will. When Economic Nationalism Is Better Than Immigration

Sadly, among elites there is no consideration that the global perception of economic opportunity in America is relative – that things may be getting so bad in a native land that even a declining U.S. economy is worth the risk of emigration.  This is hardly the dynamic process of economic growth, on either side of the equation.


Posted by: LC LaWedgie at February 09, 2014 03:44 PM (KQp38)

147 Funny. Even the Quakers have a website that works.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 09, 2014 03:44 PM (6bMeY)

148

This site should be  a  required  part   of any American History course.  Also  must be drunk while  reading.

 

j/k

Posted by: Ronster at February 09, 2014 03:44 PM (puNd6)

149 The Quakers own Aunt Jemima.

Posted by: garrett at February 09, 2014 03:45 PM (5a+o3)

150 My favorite turkey calls are made by Quaker Boy . The pro triple in screamin' green latex is badass .

Posted by: awkward davies at February 09, 2014 03:45 PM (WK8VM)

151 I'm sorry Tobacco Road, I thought it was you. I'm obviously wrong. I'm glad I'm not the only one not watching Olympics.

Posted by: Carol at February 09, 2014 03:45 PM (z4WKX)

152 @ 134 Boss Moss ....Doh!

Posted by: Judge Roy Bean at February 09, 2014 03:45 PM (cCxiu)

153 What about Uncle Ben? The Quakers have him in slavery too? Free Uncle Been! Rice for all!

Posted by: Judge Roy Bean at February 09, 2014 03:47 PM (cCxiu)

154

Carol at February 09, 2014 07:45 PM (z4WKX

 

Maybe it was Truck Monkey. I get the nics confused sometimes.

Posted by: Ronster at February 09, 2014 03:48 PM (puNd6)

155 They're redoing Sherman and Peabody.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 09, 2014 03:48 PM (6bMeY)

156 Herbert Hoover was a Quaker

Posted by: JoeyBagels at February 09, 2014 03:48 PM (Usdw3)

157 139 The Quakers own Aunt Jemima. No. Richard Nixon freed the black people. Someone needs to talk to those damn quakers.

Posted by: Bob from table9 at February 09, 2014 03:48 PM (jsa6I)

158 Gracie Gold gives an excellent performance.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at February 09, 2014 03:49 PM (bCEmE)

159 I think Truck Monkey may have been the one without power. I could be wrong about that too. I believe name had T in it, that narrows it down. I have things to do around house & to make something to eat.

Posted by: Carol at February 09, 2014 03:49 PM (z4WKX)

160 Miley Cyrus is a Quaker. Or is she a Twerker?

Posted by: The Amish at February 09, 2014 03:49 PM (JQuNB)

161 Bolivian Kickboxer meets US Marine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxRKGiXoMb4

Posted by: kbdabear at February 09, 2014 03:50 PM (aTXUx)

162 Uncle Ben made Tony Soprano faint. He put a spell on him.

Posted by: Judge Pug at February 09, 2014 03:50 PM (NRYdU)

163 I'm glad I'm not the only one Ronster!

Posted by: Carol at February 09, 2014 03:51 PM (z4WKX)

164 The elephant in the room regarding immigration is that we're supposed to import a new class of slave laborers because there's a labor shortage caused by the welfare class getting paid all these years to become indolent. So, rather than expect our native-born illiterates to get up off the couch and go to work, we'll import foreign-born illiterates to do the low-end jobs because they'll work at a discount rate and vote reliably Democrat.

Posted by: --- at February 09, 2014 03:51 PM (MMC8r)

165 Had to get the snowblower out for the 3rd day in a row. I am running out of places to put the global warming. Still snowing, too.

Posted by: garrett at February 09, 2014 03:52 PM (5a+o3)

166 Work is vulgar. Toil is stupid.

Posted by: Bill Maher at February 09, 2014 03:53 PM (juDHN)

167 Posted by: LC LaWedgie at February 09, 2014 07:44 PM

Crap.  Forbes, not WSJ.

Posted by: LC LaWedgie at February 09, 2014 03:54 PM (KQp38)

168 Work is vulgar. Toil is stupid. The modern world is so confusing. Is Bill Maher a Quaker?

Posted by: The Amish at February 09, 2014 03:55 PM (JQuNB)

169 Anybody watch True Detective? Is it any good? - I like it. The format is that two detectives who solved a bizarre murder twenty earlier now that there is a similar murder are being interviewed. The two detectives, who have since fallen out, are interviewed separately. The two detectives are Hart, who is a fairly regular guy if a bit of an asshole, and Kohle, who is very intelligent but more than a little crazy. For example, he is an atheist who lives in an apartment furnished as a monk's cell including a cross on the wall which he uses to.mediate on offering yourself for crucifixion. I'm a sucker for snappy dialogue and this has snappy dialogue.

Posted by: WalrusRex at February 09, 2014 03:55 PM (E+uky)

170 Still snowing, too.

Posted by: garrett at February 09, 2014 07:52 PM (5a+o3)

 

Get yourself a front end loader.  You're going to need one.

Posted by: Ronster at February 09, 2014 03:56 PM (puNd6)

171 This is nonsense about another Civil  War. I mean it might happen, but it won't be North VS. South. For one thing, many people from blue states have moved south. For another, the South is full of Mexicans.  Florida is filled with rich, influential Jooos who'll never mentally secede from Brooklyn, and what about the blacks? They're not going to secede from the U.S. to join some New Confederacy. It's a pipe dream. Charlie Daniels had a song, "The South is Gonna Do it Again." It was actually popular here in New Jersey where, believe it or not, there was no shortage of guys driving around with Stars and Bars on their pick-ups. Of course this was the late '70's....

Posted by: JoeyBagels at February 09, 2014 03:56 PM (Usdw3)

172 If I wait long enough, will the government come and plow out my driveway? There's a whole bunch of global warming on it right now, and it isn't going to clear itself.

Posted by: MTF at February 09, 2014 03:56 PM (F58x4)

173 The essential american soul is hard , isolate , stoic , and a killer . That quote was a recent discovery for me . I'm sure the literate morons are familiar with it . Of course nowadays the american soul seems to wear footies and drink hot cocoa . I still know some of the other kind , though . There's probably tens of millions of 'em . They don't get much press .

Posted by: awkward davies at February 09, 2014 03:57 PM (WK8VM)

174 Redneck Culture was absolutely all over the place in the 1970's. You had the Southern Rock bands, the Smokey and the Bandit(and similar) movies, Dukes of Hazzard, cowboy boots and CB radios. It was weird.

Posted by: JoeyBagels at February 09, 2014 04:00 PM (Usdw3)

175 Posted by: MTF at February 09, 2014 07:56 PM

Sign up for the Premium Platinum Program and we guarantee we'll have it cleared by July 4th.  If you like your plowman, you can keep your plowman.

Posted by: Barky O'Bomba at February 09, 2014 04:00 PM (KQp38)

176 MTF, If you wait long enough it will eventually melt when global cooling makes a comeback.

Posted by: Carol at February 09, 2014 04:01 PM (z4WKX)

177 WTF is NBC thinking with their coverage? It sucks ass. They are showing mens figure skating warm ups. Warm ups.

Posted by: garrett at February 09, 2014 04:02 PM (5a+o3)

178 Redneck Culture was absolutely all over the place in the 1970's. You had the Southern Rock bands, the Smokey and the Bandit(and similar) movies, Dukes of Hazzard, cowboy boots and CB radios. It was weird.
Posted by: JoeyBagels
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It was grand.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 09, 2014 04:04 PM (4Mv1T)

179

Redneck Culture was absolutely all over the place in the 1970's. You had the Southern Rock bands, the Smokey and the Bandit(and similar) movies, Dukes of Hazzard, cowboy boots and CB radios. It was weird.

Posted by: JoeyBagels at February 09, 2014 08:00 PM (Usdw3)

 

Southern Culture is the complete antithesis of the self-righteous liberal mealy mouthed pandering metro-sexual NY culture. 

 

Of course it was popular in Jersey, PA, etc/  If you had to choose between them, which culture would you choose? 

Posted by: rd at February 09, 2014 04:04 PM (D+lxs)

180 It sucks ass. They are showing mens figure skating warm ups. Warm ups. Posted by: garrett at February 09, 2014 08:02 PM (5a+o3) ??? I'm watching women's figure skating. (I saw it this morning too.)

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at February 09, 2014 04:05 PM (bCEmE)

181 168, and then it pretty much disappeared as soon as Reagan was elected. Go figure.

Posted by: JoeyBagels at February 09, 2014 04:05 PM (Usdw3)

182 On the 6th day Obama repealed work. No longer shall man be Locked In.

Posted by: Face DC and bow 5 times a day at February 09, 2014 04:05 PM (jsa6I)

183 West Coast Feed ...there's women's on the East Coast feed.

Posted by: garrett at February 09, 2014 04:06 PM (5a+o3)

184 173 West Coast Feed ...there's women's on the East Coast feed. Posted by: garrett at February 09, 2014 08:06 PM (5a+o3) Ah....

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at February 09, 2014 04:07 PM (bCEmE)

185 169. During the time I'm referring to. metrosexualism as as a cultural identifying force barely existed outside of  gay enclaves.

Posted by: JoeyBagels at February 09, 2014 04:07 PM (Usdw3)

186 Watch this young Russian girl. She is phenomenal.

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at February 09, 2014 04:08 PM (bCEmE)

187 I like it. The format is that two detectives who solved a bizarre murder twenty earlier now that there is a similar murder are being interviewed. The two detectives, who have since fallen out, are interviewed separately. The two detectives are Hart, who is a fairly regular guy if a bit of an asshole, and Kohle, who is very intelligent but more than a little crazy. For example, he is an atheist who lives in an apartment furnished as a monk's cell including a cross on the wall which he uses to.mediate on offering yourself for crucifixion. I'm a sucker for snappy dialogue and this has snappy dialogue. Posted by: WalrusRex at February 09, 2014 07:55 PM (E+uky) Sounds weird. I might give it a whirl tonight. Along with TWD and Episodes.

Posted by: Judge Pug at February 09, 2014 04:09 PM (NRYdU)

188 For some reason they figured the West coast would rather watch men.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 09, 2014 04:12 PM (6bMeY)

189 Watch this young Russian girl. She is phenomenal. Flexible.

Posted by: Woody Allen at February 09, 2014 04:13 PM (5a+o3)

190 Very cute and only 15.

Posted by: Roman Polanski at February 09, 2014 04:13 PM (6bMeY)

191 168, and then it pretty much disappeared as soon as Reagan was elected. Go figure.
Posted by: JoeyBagels
------------------------------------


Not exactly. Urban Cowboy was huge in 1980. Even the yuppies were buying cowboy boots. They didn't take 'em off just cause Ronnie got elected in fall.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 09, 2014 04:15 PM (4Mv1T)

192 Why was the Urban Cowboy's moustache all brown and scuzzy, Tobacco Road?

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at February 09, 2014 04:20 PM (/QAZd)

193 175 169. During the time I'm referring to. metrosexualism as as a cultural identifying force barely existed outside of gay enclaves. Posted by: JoeyBagels at February 09, 2014 08:07 PM (Usdw3) When I was in high school, you were considered a bit suspicious if you didn't carry a Buck 110.

Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at February 09, 2014 04:20 PM (JQuNB)

194 164 Redneck Culture was absolutely all over the place in the 1970's. You had the Southern Rock bands, the Smokey and the Bandit(and similar) movies, Dukes of Hazzard, cowboy boots and CB radios. It was weird. Posted by: JoeyBagels at February 09, 2014 08:00 PM (Usdw3) I live in several southern states in the '80s: Stars and Bars everywhere & plenty of "The South Shall Rise Again" bumper stickers. Wonderful people, Southerners. Salt of the earth types.

Posted by: EdMorrissey'sweatyballsack at February 09, 2014 04:21 PM (Op+RR)

195 Why was the Urban Cowboy's moustache all brown and scuzzy, Tobacco Road?
Posted by: andycanuck
----------------------------------

Same reason mine was. Although it's all gray and scuzzy now.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 09, 2014 04:21 PM (4Mv1T)

196 You're lookin' for love in all the wrong places, Tobacco Road?

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at February 09, 2014 04:23 PM (/QAZd)

197 I am glad the rebels of the South were crushed.

Posted by: Bugs Bunny at February 09, 2014 04:24 PM (hZlIF)

198 Andy Levy ‏@andylevy 3m 'The eagle has landed': The exclusive behind-the-scenes story of how NFL prospect Michael Sam came out http://sbn.to/1o8o5k9 via @outsports

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 09, 2014 04:24 PM (DmNpO)

199 When I was in high school, you were considered a bit suspicious if you didn't carry a Buck 110. Posted by: Harrison Bergeron
---------------------------

I carried a Japanese knockoff of that Buck knife that I bought for $5 at a pawnshop in about 1973. I still have it in the shop.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 09, 2014 04:25 PM (4Mv1T)

200 @ rd at February 09, 2014 08:04 P Rednecks destroyed the republican party. I wish the Dixiecrats would leave and form their own party.

Posted by: Bugs Bunny at February 09, 2014 04:25 PM (hZlIF)

201 The movers stole my Buck knife.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 09, 2014 04:26 PM (V70Uh)

202 I am glad the rebels of the South were crushed. Posted by: Bugs Bunny
----------------------------------------

Crushed you say? Look at where all the gun manufacturers are moving now.

And Ft Bragg. Largest military installation in the world. One hour from my humble abode.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 09, 2014 04:26 PM (4Mv1T)

203 Who is this Bugs Bunny troll?


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 09, 2014 04:27 PM (V70Uh)

204 I suggest ignoring it. Much like the men's skating warmups.

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at February 09, 2014 04:27 PM (/QAZd)

205 193 A bored sock is my guess.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 09, 2014 04:27 PM (ojnk6)

206 My bad. Didn't mean to feed the under bridge dweller.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 09, 2014 04:27 PM (4Mv1T)

207 btw, I am so happy the figure skating segment is over.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 09, 2014 04:28 PM (V70Uh)

208 I suck dick by choice doc.

Posted by: Bugs Bunny at February 09, 2014 04:28 PM (Aif/5)

209 The rising libertarian strain in the Republican Party will crush the Tea Party/Socon. It may not happen in time for 2016, but come 2020 a new inclusive modern libertarian Republican Party will win. The whole Tea Party/Socon phenomenon is the fading embers of a dying movement.

Posted by: Bugs Bunny at February 09, 2014 04:28 PM (hZlIF)

210 Bugs Bunny reeks of Realist from this morning.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 09, 2014 04:28 PM (DmNpO)

211 Average Joe?

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 09, 2014 04:29 PM (V70Uh)

212 Another shit stirrer.

Posted by: Ronster at February 09, 2014 04:29 PM (puNd6)

213 @ Tobacco Road at February 09, 2014 08:26 PM You still lost. The real Republicans put a beat down on the Dixiecrat/Nazi slime. We will take our party back from the heirs of Jefferson Davis and Wallace.

Posted by: Bugs Bunny at February 09, 2014 04:29 PM (hZlIF)

214 Lets say that lincoln had let the south secede. What exactly would have happened and the western us was organized into territories and states? Is there any reason to think it wouldn't have been a repeat of the bloody battles of kansas x 100 and drawn the north and south into total war anyway? And what issue was the driving force behind kansas? Slavery. And it would have been the same throughout the west. So yes the war was all.about slavery and not about states rights and war was inevitable as long as slavery persisted.

Posted by: Keyser at February 09, 2014 04:30 PM (aiISG)

215 Might be fun to bat him around for awhile .

Posted by: awkward davies at February 09, 2014 04:30 PM (WK8VM)

216 I carried a Japanese knockoff of that Buck knife that I bought for $5 at a pawnshop in about 1973. I still have it in the shop. Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 09, 2014 08:25 PM (4Mv1T) I lost mine. Alcohol may have been involved. My brother used his as a pry-bar and broke the blade out of it. Alcohol may have been involved. He found that knife again about five years ago. He sent it to Buck for repair. He sent a letter with it that said, "I do not want a new knife. I want this knife repaired. I am not making a warranty claim. Please send me an invoice." He got his knife back with a new blade, and the whole knife was beautifully cleaned and polished. It did include an invoice: No charge.

Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at February 09, 2014 04:31 PM (JQuNB)

217 Eh I work the glory hole on fire island weekdays doc.

Posted by: Bugs Bunny at February 09, 2014 04:31 PM (Aif/5)

218 Bugs,

What do you think will happen to the Democrat party when the workers realize that they are the natural enemies of the leaches?

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 09, 2014 04:32 PM (V70Uh)

219 Drudge app just alerted me, developing Hillary papers tonight? No links for it, just headlines, women, sex, single payer. I am pissed off at my brother Paul practically demanding that I buy him pants & underwear. I found pants he wanted at Old Navy last week & called to make sure they were exactly what he wanted & hit place order, then he asked about underwear & I told him I've tried twice & to call his 23 year old son. I just had to put new roof on my home & I'm not buying him underwear that he's not going to like because I'm sure nothing is perfect when they use that lift to pick him up. He just called & I wouldn't pick it up. Washing machine was too loud to hear it.

Posted by: Carol at February 09, 2014 04:32 PM (z4WKX)

220 Buck Knives used to be in El Cajon, California.  They moved to Idaho a few years ago.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 09, 2014 04:33 PM (V70Uh)

221 That's all folks!

Posted by: [/i]andycanuck[/b] at February 09, 2014 04:34 PM (/QAZd)

222 A bored sock is my guess. Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 09, 2014 08:27 PM

Nope, not a sock.  It's a hit-and-run troll that usually calls itself, "Holder is the man".

Posted by: LC LaWedgie at February 09, 2014 04:34 PM (KQp38)

223 Ehhh, what's up sock?

Posted by: Bugs Bunny Unchained at February 09, 2014 04:34 PM (3P6Lx)

224 One of my favorite songs. Battle Hymn of the Republic. When the great Republican President named Lincoln crushed the Dixiecrat traitors. http://tinyurl.com/q3w7ss4 Glory Glory Hallelujah!

Posted by: Bugs Bunny at February 09, 2014 04:34 PM (hZlIF)

225 212 Gotcha. Will treat accordingly.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 09, 2014 04:34 PM (ojnk6)

226 Slavery would have lasted another 40 yrs. tops .. Of course that would have sucked if you were enslaved but hey , on the bright side you got to kill 600,000 rednecks and irishmen and drive 40% of the country into abject poverty . Which was nice . /

Posted by: awkward davies at February 09, 2014 04:34 PM (WK8VM)

227 @Grampa Jimbo at February 09, 2014 08:32 PM I don't care about the Democrats. I am a real Republican who wants to eliminate the Tea Party/Socon/KKK trash from my party.

Posted by: Bugs Bunny at February 09, 2014 04:36 PM (hZlIF)

228 Lincoln was a Republican.

The Democratic party was and still is the party of slavery.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 09, 2014 04:36 PM (V70Uh)

229 @awkward davies at February 09, 2014 08:34 PM Irish Catholic immigrants crushed the KKK Nazi Dixecrat scum.

Posted by: Bugs Bunny at February 09, 2014 04:37 PM (hZlIF)

230 Hectorpoint?

Posted by: Soothsayer at February 09, 2014 04:37 PM (U+iP0)

231 Bugs?  A real republican?  A country club republican? 

The TEA party is about fiscal responsibility.  Not racism.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 09, 2014 04:37 PM (V70Uh)

232 Mesa caused mabbe one, two-y lettle bitty axadentes, huh? Yud-say boom da gassar, den crashin der bossÂ’s heylibber, Den banished.

Posted by: JarJar Unchained at February 09, 2014 04:37 PM (6bMeY)

233 Without the redneck contingent the republican party would be lucky to carry two states .

Posted by: awkward davies at February 09, 2014 04:37 PM (WK8VM)

234 I don't care about the Democrats. I am a real Republican who wants to eliminate the Tea Party/Socon/KKK trash from my party.

Posted by: Bugs Bunny at February 09, 2014 08:36 PM (hZlIF)



Are you a concerned Christian too?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 09, 2014 04:38 PM (FE/sZ)

235 He got his knife back with a new blade, and the whole knife was beautifully cleaned and polished. It did include an invoice: No charge. Posted by: Harrison Bergeron
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That's great!  I still have a nice Buck small folding knife I gave my dad in 1974. I got it back when he died in 1995.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 09, 2014 04:38 PM (4Mv1T)

236 Bugs, your are a liar. 


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 09, 2014 04:38 PM (V70Uh)

237 @Grampa Jimbo at February 09, 2014 08:36 PM Don't worry, we will have some surprises for you Tea Party/KKK trash. Many real republicans have had it with your bigotry and hate. We will take our party back.

Posted by: Bugs Bunny at February 09, 2014 04:38 PM (hZlIF)

238 Bugs, hold still. I've just about got you lined up in my sights.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 09, 2014 04:39 PM (4Mv1T)

239 I don't care about the Democrats. I am a real Republican who wants to eliminate the Tea Party/Socon/KKK trash from my party. Posted by: Bugs Bunny at February 09, 2014 08:36 PM (hZlIF) You need Jesus, boy.

Posted by: The Amish at February 09, 2014 04:39 PM (JQuNB)

240 Irish catholic immigrants fought in huge numbers for the south as well . Jews too . Stupid fuck .

Posted by: awkward davies at February 09, 2014 04:39 PM (WK8VM)

241 No hate.  No bigotry.

Just not paying for FSA.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 09, 2014 04:39 PM (V70Uh)

242 Posted by: Bugs Bunny at February 09, 2014 08:38 PM (hZlIF) Got any examples of this alleged 'bigotry and hate'?

Posted by: [/i][/b][/u][/s] Tami at February 09, 2014 04:40 PM (bCEmE)

243 Irish Catholic immigrants crushed the KKK Nazi Dixecrat scum.

Posted by: Bugs Bunny at February 09, 2014 08:37 PM (hZlIF)



You might have missed the hell no we won't go riots in New York in 1863

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 09, 2014 04:40 PM (FE/sZ)

244 You history buffs crack me up. It was the Quakers who won the civil war. Or maybe the Amish 6 of 1 half dozen of the other.

Posted by: Bob from table9 at February 09, 2014 04:40 PM (jsa6I)

245 @awkward davies at February 09, 2014 08:37 PM Without the trash the Republican Party would win back the North East, Midwest and California.

Posted by: Bugs Bunny at February 09, 2014 04:40 PM (hZlIF)

246 Rednecks are controlled by da joos.

Posted by: Bugs Bunny's Evil Twin at February 09, 2014 04:41 PM (Aif/5)

247 I suspect Bugs is the jackass who yelled "fag" throughout the morning thread. Same odor.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 09, 2014 04:41 PM (DmNpO)

248 @awkward davies at February 09, 2014 08:39 PM Liar, a majority of Irish immigrants fought for the Union. They were not fight for a bunch of snake handlers.

Posted by: Bugs Bunny at February 09, 2014 04:41 PM (hZlIF)

249 Bullshit . Stupid fuck .

Posted by: awkward davies at February 09, 2014 04:41 PM (WK8VM)

250 Wabbit season.

*bang* *bang*

Posted by: Elmer Fudd at February 09, 2014 04:41 PM (3P6Lx)

251 Without the trash the Republican Party would win back the North East, Midwest and California.

Posted by: Bugs Bunny at February 09, 2014 08:40 PM (hZlIF)



Stupid we much

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 09, 2014 04:42 PM (FE/sZ)

252 Bugs,

You part of the UN that wants the Catholic Church to stop preaching against abortion?

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 09, 2014 04:42 PM (V70Uh)

253 You might have missed the hell no we won't go riots in New York in 1863

Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at February 09, 2014 04:42 PM (JQuNB)

254 230. Irish Catholics fought  for the North too, albeit reluctantly, as they stood to lose what little juise they had to compete with free blacks. Just as well. They wouldn't have been welcome in the Protestant South anyhow. It was populated by descendants of Ulstermen.

Posted by: JoeyBagels at February 09, 2014 04:43 PM (Usdw3)

255 @Grampa Jimbo at February 09, 2014 08:39 PM Much of the FSA are redneck white trash. They are real Americans to you, hence its OK they get supported. The new Republican Party will be one for all Americans regardless of color or ethnic background. Your time is limited.

Posted by: Bugs Bunny at February 09, 2014 04:43 PM (hZlIF)

256 At Fredericksburg , there were huge numbers of Irish on both sides .

Posted by: awkward davies at February 09, 2014 04:43 PM (WK8VM)

257 @JoeyBagels at February 09, 2014 08:43 PM Yup, they would not fight for Prod scum.

Posted by: Bugs Bunny at February 09, 2014 04:43 PM (hZlIF)

258 All our time is limited.

Prepare to meet your maker.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 09, 2014 04:43 PM (V70Uh)

259 What I meant to say: 243 You might have missed the hell no we won't go riots in New York in 1863 RIMSHOT!

Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at February 09, 2014 04:43 PM (JQuNB)

260 Youre arguing with a troll who's just fucking with you.

Posted by: Soothsayer at February 09, 2014 04:44 PM (U+iP0)

261 @ Grampa Jimbo at February 09, 2014 08:42 PM Screw the UN, they are nothing. Right now my concern is the destruction and purging of the Teas Party/KKK/Nazi wing of the GOP. Real republicans like me have had it.

Posted by: Bugs Bunny at February 09, 2014 04:44 PM (hZlIF)

262 Without the trash the Republican Party would win back the North East, Midwest and California.

Posted by: Bugs Bunny at February 09, 2014 08:40 PM (hZlIF)






The last Republican to do that was Reagan. Not exactly a Rockefeller type. He was vilified as a war monger who pander to the Christian Coalition.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 09, 2014 04:45 PM (FE/sZ)

263 The ass takes on various forms.  Last one I remember was jerkass unchained.

Posted by: Ronster at February 09, 2014 04:45 PM (puNd6)

264 Joey bagels ,,irish catholics were hardly welcomed with open arms in the north either .

Posted by: awkward davies at February 09, 2014 04:45 PM (WK8VM)

265 can't a Moron get a TB3K?

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 09, 2014 04:45 PM (4Mv1T)

266 I know sooth . It's fun though .

Posted by: awkward davies at February 09, 2014 04:46 PM (WK8VM)

267 Kill so cons. Kill so cons.

Posted by: Hector, teller of Troof and full of fax at February 09, 2014 04:46 PM (Aif/5)

268 It doesn't bother me.

I prayed for Obama today. 

Consider this: 

His father abandoned him.

His mother abandoned him.

This wife is a harridan and shrew.

He is lost in the world. He is estranged from God.

I don't hate Obama.  I pity him.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 09, 2014 04:46 PM (V70Uh)

269 The rising libertarian movement is backlash against the Socon trash now calling itself Tea Party. It's just the 21st Century version of the KKK. I hope that you all split from the GOP. Go follow that idiot Palin off a cliff.

Posted by: Bugs Bunny at February 09, 2014 04:46 PM (hZlIF)

270 Grandpa Jimbo- Kudos.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 09, 2014 04:47 PM (4Mv1T)

271 The KKK was the militant wing of the Democrat Party.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 09, 2014 04:48 PM (6bMeY)

272 The TEA party was never socon.  It was ficon.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 09, 2014 04:48 PM (V70Uh)

273 I can't help but be angry. My daddy didn't love me enough when I was a boy.

Posted by: Bugs Bunny at February 09, 2014 04:48 PM (DmNpO)

274 I admir Generals Sherman and Sheridan they did what it takes to win a war. Unlike the current Republican party of today that finds nobility in defeat. This loser attitude is due to the Dixiecrat infiltration.

Posted by: Bugs Bunny at February 09, 2014 04:49 PM (hZlIF)

275 Bugs-  You typing from mommies basement?  Did she fix you poptarts this morning for breakfast?

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 09, 2014 04:49 PM (4Mv1T)

276 Some of this is just the usual whippin' on the south stuff , as if things like racism , homophobia , and the like are our exclusive sins . Sure we have all that bad stuff , but I submit , we don't have any more of it than say Jersey , or Ohio .

Posted by: awkward davies at February 09, 2014 04:49 PM (WK8VM)

277 I would like some of what this guys smoking.

Posted by: Adam at February 09, 2014 04:49 PM (Aif/5)

278 I will hug hit 'im... and queeze squish 'im... and name 'im George.

Posted by: Abominable TB3K at February 09, 2014 04:49 PM (3P6Lx)

279 The Chicago Bears still suck.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 09, 2014 04:49 PM (6bMeY)

280 I was always the last kid picked for teams during gym class.

Posted by: Bugs Bunny at February 09, 2014 04:50 PM (DmNpO)

281 Wow, been to many a Tea Party meetings andmevents and never heard a peep about social issues. I guess we're the cause of all social ills by ignoring them and focusing on lowering taxes and getting back to true Constitutional govt. Who knew?

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 09, 2014 04:50 PM (ojnk6)

282 The boys in my high school locker room always made fun of my Underroos.

Posted by: Bugs Bunny at February 09, 2014 04:51 PM (DmNpO)

283 @Boss Moss at February 09, 2014 08:48 PM That is true, but now they have morphed into the Tea party wing of the Republican Party.

Posted by: Bugs Bunny at February 09, 2014 04:51 PM (hZlIF)

284 we don't have any more of it than say Jersey , or Ohio . Posted by: awkward davies at February 09, 2014 08:49 PM (WK8VM) I have a friend in Chicago who freely admits that truth. I have a friend in St. Paul who took some convincing, but he eventually admitted it too.

Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at February 09, 2014 04:52 PM (JQuNB)

285 It's just Niedermeyer's Dead Horse F'ing with you.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 09, 2014 04:52 PM (6bMeY)

286 254. Very true. But then they took over The Democrat Party and got the upper hand over the newer immigrant groups  ( Italians, Poles, etc.) They never could have done this in the South.

Posted by: JoeyBagels at February 09, 2014 04:52 PM (Usdw3)

287 Guys, you dont fight a troll by just playing defense. There's one party in the U.S. that advocates discrimination based on race. It ain't the Republicans.

Posted by: AD at February 09, 2014 04:52 PM (ZMsuK)

288 What did I tell you about doing acid without me Buggs.

Posted by: Daffy Duck at February 09, 2014 04:52 PM (Aif/5)

289 Tea party stands for Taxed enough already . How can anyone argue against that ?

Posted by: awkward davies at February 09, 2014 04:53 PM (WK8VM)

290 I asked a Southern Belle on a date and she laughed in my face. Damn Dixiecrat!

Posted by: Bugs Bunny at February 09, 2014 04:53 PM (DmNpO)

291 Bugs- Poor whittle fehwa. Don't you have a wittle hole to crawl down?

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 09, 2014 04:53 PM (4Mv1T)

292 So, ESPN will be all gay NFL dude for the news few days and weeks, i guess.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 09, 2014 04:53 PM (ZPrif)

293 A tribute to the great Abraham Lincoln, founder of the Republican party. http://tinyurl.com/k3bmc9v We will take our party back in his name.

Posted by: Bugs Bunny at February 09, 2014 04:54 PM (hZlIF)

294 So, ESPN will be all gay NFL dude for the news few days and weeks, i guess. *** My money was on Antonio Smith being the first to come out.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 09, 2014 04:54 PM (DmNpO)

295 Holder is the man?

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 09, 2014 04:55 PM (6bMeY)

296 @awkward davies at February 09, 2014 08:53 PM That is what the tea Party used to stand for in 09/10. Then Dixiecrats like Bachmann and Palin took it over and turned into a Rural white reactionary movement like the KKK.

Posted by: Bugs Bunny at February 09, 2014 04:55 PM (hZlIF)

297 Yikes, this BB sock is tossing around all the Lotsa other Great blog tripe, isn't he? What he doesn't realize is that I'm depending upon his all and powerful Oz to plow my fucking driveway. Tonight would be good, thanks, Bunny Boy.

Posted by: MTF at February 09, 2014 04:55 PM (F58x4)

298 It's just Niedermeyer's Dead Horse F'ing with you. Posted by: Boss Moss
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She's only one of 'em, effing with the wheel wabbit.

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 09, 2014 04:55 PM (4Mv1T)

299 Feel that? This thread was just pushed down.

Posted by: Soothsayer at February 09, 2014 04:56 PM (U+iP0)

300 271 Wow, been to many a Tea Party meetings andmevents and never heard a peep about social issues. I guess we're the cause of all social ills by ignoring them and focusing on lowering taxes and getting back to true Constitutional govt. Who knew? Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 09, 2014 08:50 PM (ojnk6) Bugs is just the latest iteration of the troll who's been around for a couple of days, but I'm amazed by the lefties who actually believe the Tea Party movement is a threat. These aren't stupid people in anything other than matters of politics and public policy. In other respects, they're productive, reasonable people. They have no awareness at all of how they're being manipulated.

Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at February 09, 2014 04:56 PM (JQuNB)

301 So, ESPN will be all gay NFL dude for the news few days and weeks, i guess.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 09, 2014 08:53 PM (ZPrif)



Chris Kluwe?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 09, 2014 04:56 PM (FE/sZ)

302 >>>So, ESPN will be all gay NFL dude for the news few days and weeks, i guess.<<<



Well anything to keep the topic off Marcus Smart is very welcome.

Posted by: Oklahoma State at February 09, 2014 04:56 PM (3P6Lx)

303 Dude was only a 3-5th round projection. This could actually boost his draft position and make him some money. Clever strategy.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at February 09, 2014 04:56 PM (ZPrif)

304 Bachmann argued against the HPV vaccine and as a consequence I now have genital warts.

Posted by: Bugs Bunny at February 09, 2014 04:56 PM (DmNpO)

305 Kill The Wabbit!

(remove spaces)

http://www.you tube.com/watch?v= Yxiv3CBMS4M

Posted by: JeanQ at February 09, 2014 04:57 PM (82lr7)

306 By the way, pitchers and catchers report this week. In my house, only the upcoming fall election is looked to with greater joy than that little nugget of news.

Posted by: MTF at February 09, 2014 04:58 PM (F58x4)

307 I thimk there has been some nicjacking from reactionaries.

Posted by: Hugh G. Rection at February 09, 2014 04:58 PM (ZLU+3)

308 Joey bagels , you make good points but hasn't this country always had powerful but competing ethnic groups in every region . I ain't taking sole responsibility for freezing irish catholics out of power in the rural south . Besides , although we have our share of corruption at least they aren't named Kennedy . There's an irish family we could do without .

Posted by: awkward davies at February 09, 2014 04:59 PM (WK8VM)

309 I linked this on the ONT the other night. Bob Dylan "Cross the Green Mountain": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iw8YjVrRNRU This song was written for the movie "Gods and Generals" and is heard over the closing credits. This is an abbreviated version. The full version is eight minutes long and contains a lot more verses. It's on the "Bootleg Series Vol. 8" CD, and is easily worth the price for this song alone. Fun fact: Bob Dylan is a Civil War buff. In his autobiography, he described arriving in New York City at age 21 and spending days in the library reading Civil War era newspapers on microfilm.

Posted by: rickl at February 09, 2014 04:59 PM (sdi6R)

310 294 Bachmann argued against the HPV vaccine and as a consequence I now have genital warts. Posted by: Bugs Bunny at February 09, 2014 08:56 PM (DmNpO) Ha! NDH strikes again!

Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at February 09, 2014 04:59 PM (JQuNB)

311

Any of you morons/'ettes read Kenneth Stampp's, The Peculiar Institution?  If you haven't, you should. It was written by a UC Berkeley history prof. before Berkeley became Berzerkely. It makes a very good argument that slavery would have gone away before 1900 simply due to the many and serious problems posed by having slaves. So many people have this stupid idea that slaves were treated harshly as a matter of course; it made no more sense to treat one's slaves badly then than it would now to go out and beat the Hell out of your tractor on a whim. The laws of economics were just as valid then as they are now. It's MUCH easier for employers to pay workers the minimum the market will allow and make them responsible for themselves. In the end it's also cheaper.

The first American Civil War could have the same description applied that Winston Churchill coined for the Second World War: "The Unnecessary War." It was fought over a dying institution that would have been gone in 50 years anyway. Anyone who questions that need only look at Brazil and how they handled the issue of slavery in a society far more conducive to it. They dumped it too, and for the same reason: it was an economic loser compared to wage labor.

Posted by: mac at February 09, 2014 04:59 PM (pEsGM)

312 >>The boys in my high school locker room always made fun of my Underroos. Posted by: Bugs Bunny Probably made fun of what was in them too.

Posted by: Aviator at February 09, 2014 04:59 PM (DI+ja)

313 294 Bachmann argued against the HPV vaccine and as a consequence I now have genital warts. Posted by: Bugs Bunny at February 09, 2014 08:56 PM (DmNpO) _______________________________ I don't care who you are now that is funny

Posted by: Bob from table9 at February 09, 2014 05:00 PM (jsa6I)

314 @Harrison Bergeron at February 09, 2014 08:56 PM The Tea Party has been the Democrat Party's best friend. Its no coincidence many "ex" Democrats aka Dixiecrat trash are involved. I bet some Soros money is behind the Tea Party/KKK. Real Republicans are onto the Tea Party false flag scam.

Posted by: Bugs Bunny at February 09, 2014 05:00 PM (hZlIF)

315 Bob Costas is going to be running a short special tonight on the glories of Putins hockey accomplishments later tonight, by the way, right before the figure skating. Look for it!

Posted by: MTF at February 09, 2014 05:00 PM (F58x4)

316 I don't care who you are now that is funny Posted by: Bob from table9
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It was NDH  

Posted by: Tobacco Road at February 09, 2014 05:00 PM (4Mv1T)

317 Bachman from Minn , and Palin from Alaska , somehow equals Dixiecrat . OK I love Niedermeyer , btw .

Posted by: awkward davies at February 09, 2014 05:01 PM (WK8VM)

318 @ Hugh G. Rection at February 09, 2014 08:58 PM These people can't handle the truth.

Posted by: Bugs Bunny at February 09, 2014 05:01 PM (hZlIF)

319 The Republican Party will only come back to power once it mirrors the bastion of racial harmony and tolerance that is California.

Posted by: Bugs Bunny at February 09, 2014 05:02 PM (ZMsuK)

320 @awkward davies at February 09, 2014 09:01 PM They are ideological Dixiecrats.

Posted by: Bugs Bunny at February 09, 2014 05:02 PM (hZlIF)

321 So, what happened to Miss O'Brien in Downton Abbey?

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 09, 2014 05:02 PM (V70Uh)

322 266, you're right again. There is plenty of racism up North, but it's usually a racism among "equals" in that it's a turf battle between warring tribes, unlike in the South where there was actually a system of  apartheid based on a "natural" order for a long time.  The genius of the Democrats has always been to offer enough free shit in the form of patronage, payoffs and welfare that they can have racists and blacks under the same tent. It's really a neat trick. There are plenty of "natural conservatives" in New Jersey, but they are dominated statewide by five or six  major Democrat-run , black-dominated cities which renders their votes useless in presidential elections years due to the Electoral college. Republicans have to play ball with them.

Posted by: JoeyBagels at February 09, 2014 05:03 PM (Usdw3)

323 @ManWithNoParty at February 09, 2014 08:50 PM The Tea Party is a rural White resentment movement.

Posted by: Bugs Bunny at February 09, 2014 05:04 PM (hZlIF)

324 Real Republicans are onto the Tea Party false flag scam. Posted by: Bugs Bunny at February 09, 2014 09:00 PM (hZlIF) ====================== Wait a minute! Senator McCain, welcome! We're all your fans here. Any chance you would consider retiring and enjoying life a little? Get away from the rush in DC, and head on down to Sedona for some well deserved R&R.

Posted by: MTF at February 09, 2014 05:04 PM (F58x4)

325 Grew up in Richmond. You know, the place that S.O.B. Grant burned. Now I'm on the wrong side of the Mason-Dixon line and all the hillbillys have Confederate flags in their yards and on their pickup trucks. It's some sort of "I'm a redneck hellraiser" statement. "Desecration", I tell them. "Fuck you, we won", they say. "The score's 1-0 and it's halftime, boys" is my reply.

Posted by: Xavier at February 09, 2014 05:04 PM (uUbbK)

326 I could ask it to model itself after the open-mindedness that exists in New York, Detroit, and Massachusetts, but that's clearly too much to ask.

Posted by: Bugs Bunny at February 09, 2014 05:04 PM (ZMsuK)

327 Coupla noods for those that are tired of the spank the troll game.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 09, 2014 05:06 PM (ojnk6)

328 Pizza! Dortmunder Gold!

Posted by: MTF at February 09, 2014 05:06 PM (F58x4)

329 @JoeyBagels at February 09, 2014 09:03 PM What hurts the Republicans in jersey is the perception it is a racist White party. The Tea Party helps fuel this image. What prevents Middle class Hispanics, Asians and Blacks from voting Republican? Its not free stuff like you claim, its the perception that they are not welcomed in the Republican Party. Once the Tea party is purged, the GOP will make inroads with Middle Class minorities.

Posted by: Bugs Bunny at February 09, 2014 05:06 PM (hZlIF)

330 My mommy didn't like so cons. They told her not to touch me like that anymore.

Posted by: BugsBunny at February 09, 2014 05:06 PM (Aif/5)

331 @Bugs Bunny at February 09, 2014 09:04 PM New York is very tolerant and until recent times, the Republicans were competitive there. When it got obsessed with social issues, many people turned to the Dems.

Posted by: Bugs Bunny at February 09, 2014 05:07 PM (hZlIF)

332 Look, i know a lot of Republicans who like to think they're accepting and know how to co-exist with their fellow man. Then they visit Philadelphia...and know what is to live in a 21st century society.

Posted by: Bugs Bunny at February 09, 2014 05:08 PM (ZMsuK)

333 Begone ye bigots. Look to Philly.

Posted by: Bugs Bunny at February 09, 2014 05:08 PM (ZMsuK)

334 @MTF at February 09, 2014 09:04 PM McCain is senile and should retire.

Posted by: Bugs Bunny at February 09, 2014 05:08 PM (hZlIF)

335 There are many racists in states like New Jersey. The "n" word slips through their lips as naturally as the air they breath. Many of them are dyed-in-the wool Democrats who voted for, and campaigned for Obama.

Posted by: JoeyBagels at February 09, 2014 05:09 PM (Usdw3)

336 New York is very tolerant and until recent times, the Republicans were competitive there. When it got obsessed with social issues, many people turned to the Dems.

Posted by: Bugs Bunny at February 09, 2014 09:07 PM (hZlIF)


I've lived in New York for 10 years.  I know exactly how tolerant it is.

Truly a utopia for the modern age.

Posted by: Bug Bunny at February 09, 2014 05:10 PM (E31Rf)

337 Joey Bagels , natural order, apatheid , good terms . I even mostly agree with it . One caveat , in the south there was still enough of a meritocracy to enable at least some of the cream to rise to the top . While the aristocracy tended to be standoffish , if one had the ability you could still gain admittance , unless you were black , of course . They had to create their own aristocracy .

Posted by: awkward davies at February 09, 2014 05:11 PM (WK8VM)

338 The tea party is a toothless animal. It can make all the noises in the world yet has no bite. Holder got the power and just shut you down again. I love every minute of this. Posted by: Holder is the man at January 14, 2014 02:00 PM (hZlIF)

Posted by: JackStraw at February 09, 2014 05:11 PM (g1DWB)

339 Be forewarned, the rising libertarian tide in the Republican Party will push out the Tea Party/Socon/KKK garbage. Your time is running out and soon, the purge will begin. The party of Lincoln, Coolidge, Ike and Reagan shall be restored. Victory will be ours!

Posted by: Bugs Bunny at February 09, 2014 05:11 PM (hZlIF)

340 @ awkward davies at February 09, 2014 09:11 PM You support Segregation? Get the hell out of the Republican Party Dixiecrat scum.

Posted by: Bugs Bunny at February 09, 2014 05:12 PM (hZlIF)

341 If immigrant Catholics who are against abortion can vote for the party of abortion, and blacks who are anti-gay can vote for the party of gay, then why can't racist whites vote for a black?  Economic self-interest? That's another way of saying they want their free shit (and government jobs.)

Posted by: JoeyBagels at February 09, 2014 05:13 PM (Usdw3)

342 The party of Lincoln, Coolidge, Ike and Reagan shall be restored. Victory will be ours!

Posted by: Bugs Bunny at February 09, 2014 09:11 PM (hZlIF)

At least three of whom you would have called rednecks.

Posted by: Bugs Bunny at February 09, 2014 05:13 PM (E31Rf)

343 I will leave you and you can return to your wet dreams of a race war burning times. The only burning you will face will be in hell when you meet you master Lucifer. Long live the Republican Party!

Posted by: Bugs Bunny at February 09, 2014 05:13 PM (hZlIF)

344 What's up doc? You're ruining a good thread.

Posted by: JoeyBagels at February 09, 2014 05:15 PM (Usdw3)

345 You know what you should really aim for, though?  You really want to be open-minded?  You really want to convince others you've abandoned the hateful ethnic strife of the past?

The solution is simple.

Washington.!

D.!

C.!

Posted by: Bugs Bunny at February 09, 2014 05:15 PM (E31Rf)

346 The most anti semitic person in my family , my mom , lives in Pelosi's district in Ca. The most racist , my brother in law , a secular jewish russian immigrant , also in Central Ca.

Posted by: awkward davies at February 09, 2014 05:16 PM (WK8VM)

347 The only burning you will face will be in hell when you meet you master Lucifer.

Awwwe, I didn't chase you away, did I?  Stay.  These people need your guidance.

How else am I going to explain to them the wonders of Baltimore?

Posted by: Bugs Bunny at February 09, 2014 05:17 PM (E31Rf)

348 palinsteele has returned?

Posted by: GMB who remembers back when..... at February 09, 2014 05:17 PM (nkPV9)

349 Where did I say I supported segregation ? WTF ?

Posted by: awkward davies at February 09, 2014 05:18 PM (WK8VM)

350 Segregation ? I've got a half black niece , a half mexican nephew , a mexican bil , and a jewish bil . Go fuck yerself .

Posted by: awkward davies at February 09, 2014 05:20 PM (WK8VM)

351 Regressives are Calvinists who rail against the evil Papists. Stop with this pity act for a group you despise. Posted by: Holder is the man at January 14, 2014 02:36 PM (hZlIF)

Posted by: JackStraw at February 09, 2014 05:21 PM (g1DWB)

352 336, I believe it. My point in all this is that the Democrat charge of racism at everything, including honest criticism of the policies of Obama, is a diversion. We all know that many progressives are racist, but their political positions inoculate them against that charge.  That's why Strom Thurmond is held up as a racist bogeyman and exhibit A in the Republicans turning into the Dixecrats and actual Kluxxer Robert Byrd-among many others--is given a pass.

Posted by: JoeyBagels at February 09, 2014 05:22 PM (Usdw3)

353 I meant I agreed with some of Joey Bagels characterizations of the southern political dynamic . Not that I agreed with apartheid . I was not clear , I guess .

Posted by: awkward davies at February 09, 2014 05:25 PM (WK8VM)

354 Just ignore it.

Posted by: Carol at February 09, 2014 05:25 PM (z4WKX)

355 Peace be unto this thread as the stench of day old socks and the hate Mgmt predicted fades into the great beyond....

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at February 09, 2014 05:27 PM (ojnk6)

356 Joey , Strom was , like most folks , more complicated than the thumbnail depicted him . I guess it's common knowledge that he fathered a black daughter , maybe less well known that he visited her regularly and paid her way through college . I say that as someone who mostly hated Strom . It's kinda' complicated . Ya' know ?

Posted by: awkward davies at February 09, 2014 05:31 PM (WK8VM)

357 Posted by: awkward davies at February 09, 2014 09:31 PM (WK8VM) Thanks for that info. I didnÂ’t know that!

Posted by: Carol at February 09, 2014 05:32 PM (z4WKX)

358 Sure Carol . I reckon I'll head up to the newer threads . Enjoyed it ya'll .

Posted by: awkward davies at February 09, 2014 05:34 PM (WK8VM)

359 I still havenÂ’t eaten. I have a poor appetite. IÂ’m trying to decide what to eat. IÂ’ll be back for ONT or until troll is gone.

Posted by: Carol at February 09, 2014 05:39 PM (z4WKX)

360 The most segregated city in the world?

Chicago.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at February 09, 2014 05:41 PM (V70Uh)

361 350 The most segregated city in the world? Chicago. --- It didn't feel that way when I lived there (in the 90s), but I was in Hyde Park and we had Mayor Washington for a significant chunk of the time. Boston always felt really segregated to me.

Posted by: Y-not (@MoxieMom) at February 09, 2014 05:45 PM (zDsvJ)

362 Does this thread need busting or did you all take care of it?

Posted by: Y-not (@MoxieMom) at February 09, 2014 05:46 PM (zDsvJ)

363 Bugs Bunny, I am proud of your stand against the racism and homophobia in the Republican Party with their ongoing wars against women and the poor.


I wish you luck in cleaning the neo-Nazis and Klansmen from it so you may join in a bipartisan effort to make a more correct America and world community.

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, Vermont at February 09, 2014 06:01 PM (s1XiY)

364 Why do retards keeps confusing the Tea Party and socons? oh yeah, MSNBC ( aka democong) propaganda

Posted by: just passin by at February 09, 2014 06:09 PM (A9KzJ)

365 Do they have trolls on the Milkyway thread too?

Posted by: Judge Roy Bean at February 09, 2014 07:00 PM (cCxiu)

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